LGBTQI Translation (sic) of Galatians 3:28
Galatians 3:28 reads: “There is no longer Jew or Greek, no longer slave or free, no longer male or female, no longer straight or gay, no longer cis or trans: for all of you are one in Christ Jesus.”
I emailed this through to Tony of the Big Saloon explaining that Detterling had posted it on my blog. He called me up furious, "These LGBTQI people will stop at nothing to attempt to legitimise their perversions. Fancy Detterling at his age going along with this! Silly old tosser. And the cheek of him trying to put this over on a Scripture scholar of your erudition Gene."
Pitiable. And, as always in the face of overwhelming evidence of the depth and nastiness of your malicious bigotry, abusive and resorting to sock puppets. Once more, Gene - no one gives a rat's for your pissy little opinions.
ReplyDeleteOr, if you fancy actually trying to construct an argument using your formidable intellect, tell us how St Paul's metaphor excludes any class of person from accessing the mercy of Christ.
ReplyDeleteYou can't, because it doesn't.
No one is excluded from from accessing the mercy of Christ. But, as Saint Paul makes clear to the Arsenokoitai et al, no one will enter the Kingdom of God while in sin - and in respect of the Arsenkoitai the sin of homosexual activity.
ReplyDeleteThat is why the C of E teaches that homosexual acts are incompatible with Scripture.
BOLLOCKS - read the full document I posted yesterday, and you will see that you are, as ever, vainly repeating a lie in the hope that it will become true.
DeleteAnd never mind trotting out the arseokoitai yet again - a quotation which does not refer to homosexuals, as demonstrated by Revd Candace Chewell's exegesis posted here last week.
And if you cannot see the blatant contradiction in your last post, you have no hope of answering my question.
In what respect does Galatians 3:28 exclude homosexuals from the mercy of Christ or, as St Paul puts in "being all one in Christ Jesus" and hence being welcomed in to the kingdom of God.
Perhaps begin by demonstrating how a person who is a member of Jesus Christ ["ye are all one in Christ Jesus"] can simultaneously be excluded from the kingdom of God.
In your own words, please.
"And the cheek of him trying to put this over on a Scripture scholar of your erudition Gene."
ReplyDeleteYes indeed!
Ducky Duckworth
Why do you bother with this arrant sock puppetry, Gene? Why do you purposefully set out to make yourself out to be an even bigger clown than you actually are?
Delete“That is why the Church of England teaches that homosexual acts are incompatible with Scripture.”
ReplyDeleteWrong - that is one strand of the church’s views on homosexuality. Like the churching of women or the practice of commination, whilst it is still in the C of E canon, it is in practice a dead letter, although Evangelicals and bigots still mourn its supercession. It’s rather like the Humana Vitae doctrine of the RC Church on artificial contraception - still officially doctrine but ignored by most European and North American Catholics, including the monumental hypocrite Gene Vincent. True, his repulsive personality must be an effective contraceptive in itself, but beauty is in the eye of the beholder and all that.
Furthermore...
ReplyDeleteIn 1 Timothy 1:8-11, the Apostle Paul writes,
...we know that the Law is good, if one uses it lawfully, understanding this, that the Law is not laid down for the just but for the lawless and disobedient, for the ungodly and sinners, for the unholy and profane, for those who strike their fathers and mothers, for murderers, the sexually immoral, men who practice homosexuality [arsenokoitai], enslavers, liars, perjurers, and whatever else is contrary to sound doctrine, in accordance with the gospel of the glory of the blessed God with which I have been entrusted.
"That is why the Church of England teaches that homosexual acts are incompatible with Scripture.”
ReplyDeleteWrong - that is one strand of the church’s views on homosexuality."
Not so. That is the Church of England teaching - that homosexual acts are incompatible with Scripture.
And that is why same sex marriages and same sex blessings cannot take place in the C of E.
If I thought you were genuinely interested in current church of England thinking on sexuality, then I would recommend that you read thoroughly the book from which quotation comes. It is part of a longer essay
ReplyDeleteThe Revd Canon Professor Loveday Alexander
Emeritus Professor of Biblical Studies, University of Sheffield
Canon-Theologian Emeritus, Chester Cathedral, writes:
1. Homophobia and the shifting moral landscape
At the heart of the Pilling report is a strong call to the church to resist homophobia and to offer a welcoming and inclusive space for people of homosexual orientation (‘LGBT’). Both sides on the working party agree that the Church of England needs to take a firm stance against homophobia and in favour of inclusion and acceptance of ‘LGBT’ people within the church. Thus the Report states:
• §1. We warmly welcome and affirm the presence and ministry
within the Church of gay and lesbian people, both lay and
ordained.
• §5. Homophobia — that is, hostility to homosexual people — is
still as serious a matter as it was, and the Church should repent
for the homophobic attitudes it has sometimes failed to rebuke
and should stand firmly against it whenever and wherever it is to
be found.
This stance is heartily endorsed in Keith Sinclair’s dissenting statement:
• I am in agreement with Recommendations 5-7 and absolutely
committed to challenging prejudice against or exclusion of those
we may perceive as being different from ourselves, whatever
form of difference that may take. … The need to repent of our
readiness to exclude, judge and patronize those who are different
from ourselves, whatever those differences may be, has become
even clearer to me.
This stance represents a major advance on previous statements of the Church of England, and is to be thoroughly welcomed. It recognises the existence of lesbian, gay, bisexual and transgendered (‘LGBT’) people as a small but constant percentage of the population for whom same-sex
attraction is not a free choice but a ‘given,’ a part of their sexual
identity. People who fall into this category, like other minorities in
human society, have experienced fear and loathing, mockery and
discrimination throughout human history. It is good that the Church
is ready to recognise this and to repent of her own part in it.
But I don’t think the implications of this stance have been fully
grasped. We don’t talk (as a church) of being ‘inclusive’ towards
murderers (say), or of repenting of negative attitudes towards financial fraud. (We will of course want to stress that the church is there for sinners — but we don’t thereby condone the sin.) The language of inclusion is the language we use not of moral categories but of social or anthropological categories (race, gender, disability). In other words, simply by talking about ‘homophobia,’ the Report represents a significant shift from the biblical viewpoint which sees homosexual practice as ‘sin’ and has no concept of homosexual identity or orientation (a concept which did not emerge until the 19th century)"
But you won't: you will adjust your blinkers and, like the malicious bastard you are, continue with your nasty, bigoted belittling of men and women who are as deserving - if not more - of a place in the kingdom of God as a sod like you.
Interesting, too, that you never react to remarks like this:
ReplyDelete"It’s rather like the Humana Vitae doctrine of the RC Church on artificial contraception - still officially doctrine but ignored by most European and North American Catholics, including the monumental hypocrite Gene Vincent."
From which I conclude that you are as in breach of your church's teaching on artificial contraception as you claim homosexuals in the Church of England to be.
What a two faced, hypocritical, lying bastard you are.
And yet again. Gene’s silence is thunderous.
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