Thursday 27 April 2023

 


Anglican groups revolt against same-sex blessing plan




Conservative body in Church of England encourages dioceses to protest, and says opposition is growing

Conservative clergy and parishioners have launched a small but vocal revolt against the Church of England’s plan to offer to bless the civil marriages of same-sex couples, a move that some Christians believe is contrary to biblical teaching.

In Buckinghamshire, a large group parish plans to refuse to offer blessings to same-sex couples in its seven churches and is taking steps to withhold its annual contribution of £235,000 to the diocese of Oxford in protest.

A group of traditionalist clergy in the City of London have unilaterally formed an independent structure within the C of E as an act of “resistance” to blessings.

The actions are backed by the Church of England Evangelical Council (CEEC), a conservative body that has pledged to resist all attempts to introduce church blessings to same-sex couples, known as prayers of love and faith, this year. The CEEC is encouraging churches in all dioceses to make protests, and claims opposition is growing.

After years of bitter divisions over sexuality, the C of E’s governing body, the General Synod, voted by 250 to 181 in February to back a proposal by bishops to offer blessings on a voluntary basis for clergy.

Traditionalists insist marriage can only be between a man and a woman, and that the plan to bless same-sex marriages is a departure from biblical orthodoxy.

Since the synod vote, conservative archbishops in Nigeria, Uganda, South Sudan and Egypt have warned of radical action against the “blessing of sin”.

In Buckinghamshire, Great Chesham parochial church council (PCC) voted last month to support local clergy who refuse to bless same-sex marriages. Some parishioners fear the PCC’s stance means gay couples will be unable to find a church willing to bless their civil marriage in the town and surrounding villages.

The £235,000 that Great Chesham pays annually to the diocese to cover clergy salaries and other costs represents about 1.2% of the diocese’s annual budget of £19.4m. The PCC voted last month in favour of withholding the payment but must rerun the process after failing to comply with church rules. Three other parishes in the diocese are thought to be considering similar moves.

Edward Bowes-Smith, the team rector of Great Chesham parish, said the PCC had “voted to support its clergy who, on grounds of good conscience, have opted not to use prayers of love and faith. We are also in the process of consulting PCC members about setting up an overdue review of our finances.”

Alan Wilson, a suffragan bishop in the diocese, said only a handful of churches shared the views of the Great Chesham PCC, stressing that services of blessing were voluntary. “Those who want to can do so, while those who don’t are exactly where they always were. Nothing has changed for them at all.”

A spokesperson for the diocese of Oxford said: “We have not been advised of any move to cancel the parish share payments by the [Great Chesham] PCC, though we are aware that there are discussions under way.”

In London, 10 conservative priests who oppose church blessings for same-sex couples have unilaterally set up an independent “deanery chapter”.

In a video announcing the move, Phil Martin, a vicar at St Botolph’s Aldersgate, who was elected by the group as area dean, said: “Since the [bishops have] departed from the bible’s teaching on marriage and sin … change is needed. New structures are needed.”

They invited support from “all clergy who are compelled to resist … on the grounds that [the bishops’] proposed prayers of love and faith undermine the C of E’s doctrine of marriage such that we can no longer walk in partnership together.”

In response, the diocese of London said in a statement that the group was “seeking to set up its own parallel, unregulated structures outside of those of the diocese of London and the Church of England. This unilateral move would have no legal substance.”

John Dunnett, the director of strategy and operations at the CEEC, said: “The bishops’ proposals neither satisfy those who want to see equal marriage in the C of E, nor those who want to maintain the biblical and historical position.”

The CEEC was encouraging churches to take “appropriate” action, he said. “The key thing is for bishops to know that opposition is profound, widespread and growing.”

Jayne Ozanne, a campaigner for LGBT+ equality in the C of E, said: “The synod’s decision to enable blessings of people in same-sex unions upheld the long-established Anglican tradition of freedom of conscience, meaning that none of this small handful of clergy would have been impacted anyway.

“If they want to set up their own structures then they should remove themselves from established ones – they can’t have their cake and eat it.”

13 comments:

  1. "In Buckinghamshire, Great Chesham parochial church council (PCC) voted last month to support local clergy who refuse to bless same-sex marriages."

    Pompous, self-regarding clowns: the opinions of ANY PCC will not make the slightest difference to local clergy. The decision as to whether or not to conduct same-sex marriage blessings is the clergy's and no-one else's. The Chesham PCC, like Gene Vincent, delude themselves that anyone has to take notice of their pissy little opinions.

    Jayne Ozanne has it right:

    “The synod’s decision to enable blessings of people in same-sex unions upheld the long-established Anglican tradition of freedom of conscience, meaning that none of this small handful of clergy would have been impacted anyway. If they want to set up their own structures then they should remove themselves from established ones – they can’t have their cake and eat it.”

    Precisely: if the minority of anti-homosexual Christians want to set up their own church then they should do so. But, if they do, they will find themselves in a thicket of legal problems to do with who owns the fabric and the equipment of the churches, as well as who is entitled to the income and is liable to pay the bills.

    Posturing bigots like these may be impressing themselves, but they impress no-one else...

    And when is "Granny Barkes Fell In Woolworths" coming out? You could send the royalties to CEEC - although what they would do with a whole £1.95 is a mystery.

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  2. The greatest evils facing the Faith today are acceptance of abortion and acceptance of sodomy. I abhor both.

    On the contrary Detterling, you support abortion and condone sodomy. Which of us is the real Christian? Methinks it is I.

    As regards the above article in the Guardian (The Guardian, that bastion of the Faith of course!) what is the point in the Anglican Communion teaching that homosexual acts are incompatible with the Scripture if some of those calling themselves Anglican wish to have sodomic unions blessed?

    Gene

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  3. "On the contrary Detterling, you support abortion and condone sodomy."

    Ah, Gene, the old delusion surfaces - that if you tell a lie often enough it becomes the truth.

    "You support abortion": no: I have no views on abortion. I neither condone nor condemn anyone's decision to abort a pregnancy, for the simple reason that I am not willing to judge the decisions of other people who may or may not share my values.

    "You condone sodomy": no: I have no views on sodomy. I know how I like to express my own sexuality, and I understand that other people may express theirs in ways I wouldn't choose to. But provided what happens during sex is legal, mutual, consensual and involves no coercion, I would not be so impertinent as to tell other people what they should and should not do.

    "What is the point in the Anglican Communion teaching that homosexual acts are incompatible with the Scripture if some of those calling themselves Anglican wish to have sodomic unions blessed?"

    You might as well ask why the Roman Catholic church teaches that artificial contraception is incompatible with Scripture but continues to admit to communion millions of European and American Catholics who practice it - yourself included.

    And, of course, you continue to make the elementary mistake of saying that the Scriptures forbid homosexuality. They don't [and don't bother with Leviticus or St Paul - who had the convert's blinkered approachto everything].

    Find one word about homosexuality in the Gospels about homosexuality. You can't, because there is none.

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  4. And when is "Granny Barkes Fell In Woolworths" coming out? You could send the royalties to CEEC - although what they would do with a whole £1.95 is a mystery.

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  5. "Find one word about homosexuality in the Gospels about homosexuality. You can't, because there is none."

    Anyone who resorts to this simplistic reasoning has given up thinking intelligently.

    In the Gospels there is no mention of bestiality, pedophilia, assisted suicide, abortion, rape, etc. So it is fine to engage in these evils?

    Detterling you have well and truly lost it.

    GENE

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  6. Don’t insult my intelligence, you arrogant ponce. I am not claiming that anything not forbidden by the gospels is thereby sanctioned in the eyes of god. I am stating a fact: Christ did not condemn homosexuality, therefore for anyone to do so in His name is blasphemy. And it means that Christians (including you) are free to make up their own minds on the matter. You choose prohibitive and merciless bigotry. I think you are wrong, but unlike you I do not try to stop you believing what you wish to. As for me, I will answer to God, not to nasty little obsessives like you.

    And when is “Granny Barkes Fell in Woolworths” coming out?

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  7. "Christ did not condemn homosexuality, therefore for anyone to do so in His name is blasphemy"

    My God!

    Christ did not condemn bestiality, therefore for anyone to do so in His name is blasphemy.

    This is what you are saying. Even in your impaired condition this is astonishing!

    GENE

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    1. No, Gene, you are falling into your besetting juvenile error of assuming that if you say something often enough it becomes the truth.

      The fact that Christ never spoke of homosexuality means that no-one knows what His view of it was - or is. For someone to presume to speak for Christ and with his authority is the very definition of blasphemy.

      Your claim that I think that Christ approved of such things as bestiality because he never spoke of them is beyond ludicrous - I have never seen a question more disgracefully begged. No wonder you had to cheat at St John’s College even to get your Third in the Tripos.

      Also outstandingly unpleasant is your cheap and nasty sneer about my “impaired condition”.

      Tell me, Gene, what kind of impairment leads to a man maintaining that he is a full time professional writer for seven years without getting a single word published commercially?

      And what kind of impairment leads to a man claiming FOR FOUR YEARS that he has a novel on the point of publication when in fact he has only written 312 unpublishable words of it? Or are you actually going to tell us when “Granny Barkes Fell In Woolworths” is coming out?

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    2. "Your claim that I think that Christ approved of such things as bestiality because he never spoke of them is beyond ludicrous "

      Is it? Au contraire it's the moronic logic you are employing.

      "The fact that Christ never spoke of homosexuality means that no-one knows what His view of it was - or is."

      We certainly do know. He condemned it within his condemnation of sexual immorality and lewdness.

      And, yes, I do know the meaning of axiomatic and I have used it very appropriately. And I got a 2:1 in my Tripos - without any cheating.

      GENE

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    3. Go on then, you condescending bastard - prove the falsity of my logic instead of simply calling it moronic. You can't, because you know you are wrong, hence the insults and bluster. Why not save time and just claim victory like you used on the TES? Nobody is reading this crap anyway.

      "We certainly do know. He condemned it within his condemnation of sexual immorality and lewdness."

      But that is to beg the question that Christ equated homosexuality with sexual immorality and lewdness - and you have absolutely no evidence for claiming this. You think that to be the case because that is what you wish to believe, which is your business. But to claim that this is a logical basis for your belief is utter nonsense, and you know it.

      And if you got a 2:1 in your Tripos [and thank you for narrowing down my search of the records of St John's College, you mug], then this can only be because you cheated. You owned as much when you said on this blog that you copied all your philosophy essays at Oxford, whence we got your ridiculous claim that St John's was going to sue me.

      If all you are going to do is insult my intelligence with this question-begging, reductio ad absurdum casuistry, then you are simply owning to your intellectual bankruptcy.

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  8. Mark 7:20-23
    20 He went on: “What comes out of a person is what defiles them.
    21 For it is from within, out of a person’s heart, that evil thoughts come—sexual immorality, theft, murder,
    22 adultery, greed, malice, deceit, lewdness, envy, slander, arrogance and folly.
    23 All these evils come from inside and defile a person.”

    It is axiomatic that sodomy is included above. One doesn't get a more lewd act than sodomy.

    GENE

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  9. "It is axiomatic that sodomy is included above. One doesn't get a more lewd act than sodomy."

    What utter bollocks. And you claim that I have lost my marbles. Look up axiomatic and see what it means, you stupid bugger.

    And when you have done, that ponder on how much of what you think, write and publish on this appalling blog partakes of "malice, deceit, lewdness, envy, slander, arrogance and folly", you filthy sod.

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  10. And ponder on how much of what you think, write and publish on this appalling blog partakes of "malice, deceit, lewdness, envy, slander, arrogance and folly" you contemptible little sod.

    And when is “Granny Barkes Fell in Woolworths” coming out?

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