Thursday 23 February 2023

 In fact folks I had  made an earlier prediction. Back in November 2021 I posted this below. Gene is one perspicacious dude...


NEXT STOP: GAY MARRIAGES HELD IN ANGLICAN CHURCHES. MARK MY WORDS.

Gay couple receive landmark Church in Wales blessing


Father Lee Taylor, Fabiano Da Silva Duarte and Right Rev Gregory CameronIMAGE SOURCE,ANDREI DANIEL PRODUCTION
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Fabiano Da Silva Duarte, left, and Father Lee Taylor were blessed by the Bishop of St Asaph

"This is a landmark and a really big step - a time to rejoice," said Father Lee Taylor.

Father Lee and his partner Fabiano Da Silva Duarte have become what is thought to be the first same-sex couple to be officially blessed by the Church in Wales.

It comes after the Church's governing body approved a new service of blessing for same-sex couples in September.

However it stopped short of allowing gay couples to marry in its parishes.

The move has put the Church in Wales at odds with its sister Anglican church, the Church of England, which forbids clergy from blessing gay couples.

Father Lee said the service, at St Collen's Church, in Llangollen, Denbighshire, was "extremely special".

"Our civil partnership took place at our local registry office in London in 2008. Although this was an important step for us it didn't really feel like an occasion for great celebration back then," he said.

"The ceremony was short and no religious content was permitted. It didn't feel like a solemn and sacred moment.

"So this [blessing] is a really big step. It's an opportunity to celebrate our love and union in the presence of God. It is exciting - a time to rejoice."

Fabiano Da Silva Duarte and Father Lee TaylorIMAGE SOURCE,ANDREI DANIEL PRODUCTION
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Father Lee said the ceremony had the "look and smell" of a traditional wedding

He added: "We both have a deep faith and love of God and the church has always played an important part in our lives.

"We are very excited to have made this next step in our journey together."

With a choir, bell ringers and family and friends attending, Father Lee said the ceremony had the "look and smell" of a traditional wedding.

"It has been a very moving and meaningful service for us. It had all the bells and whistles but without the actual marriage part," added Father Lee.

Bishop of St Asaph, the Right Reverend Gregory CameronIMAGE SOURCE,ANDREI DANIEL PRODUCTION
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The Bishop of St Asaph said it was an "honour" to lead the blessing

However he admitted there were mixed emotions given same-sex marriages are still not permitted by the Church in Wales.

The Church in Wales' governing body voted in September to allow same-sex couples to have their civil partnership or marriage blessed in church.

A blessing signifies, in theological terms, God's approval. It marks a significant shift from the historical church teaching that homosexual relationships are sinful.

However, the Evangelical Fellowship opposed the move, saying at the time it did not uphold the "standard of Christian marriage between one man and one woman".

"It feels like we are only half way there. I would like to see the Church in Wales move forward now with same-sex marriages in church," said Father Lee.

"I believe that making a covenant with our spouse in marriage is a reflection of God's own covenant with us through Jesus."

Right Reverend Gregory Cameron and Father Lee Taylor embraceIMAGE SOURCE,ANDREI DANIEL PRODUCTION
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Father Taylor is priest-in-charge at St Collen's Church, Llangollen

The Bishop of St Asaph, the Right Revered Gregory Cameron, led the service at St Collen's Church, Llangollen, where Father Taylor is priest-in-charge.

He said it was "a great honour and privilege" to lead the first blessing for a gay couple that the Church was aware of.

Clergy have a "conscience clause" which means they can opt out of offering the blessing if they disagree.

The Scottish Episcopal Church became the first Anglican church in the UK to allow same-sex marriages in 2017.

Other Christian denominations in the UK that permit same-sex marriages include the Quakers in Britain, the General Assembly of Unitarian and Free Christian Churches, and the United Reformed Church.

18 comments:

  1. "Gene is one perspicacious dude..."

    No: he is a plagiarising prick.

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  2. Sorry, I forgot to sign that last post.
    Revd Dr Richard Dawkins, SJ.

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  3. Detterling you post rubbish such as the above but you offer no defence of the C of E regarding its gay marriage stance. Now I wonder why this should be so? Oops! Silly me. I forgot. It's because no defence is possible for the moral bankruptcy and hypocrisy of the Church of England on this issue.

    GENE

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    1. If anyone knows about moral bankruptcy and hypocrisy - as a lifelong practitioner of both - it would be Gene Vincent. All the same, it is not possible to defend the Church of England's stance on same sex marriage, for the simple reason that in fudging the issue yet again, offering blessings but not a real marriage ceremony, offering an apology to homosexuals at the same moment as rejecting them from the sacrament of marriage, it has behaved indefensibly and hypocritically yet again. Homosexuals are children of God and as such should be accepted by all churches as such, and admitted to all their sacraments. The Church of England's cowardice is all too reminiscent of Gene's spineless and anonymous attacks on people he envies and their wives and families.
      As for Genes's nauseating Jehovah's Witness style references to scripture to justify his ignorant, bone-headed bigotry, he obviously hasn't read as far as Galatians 3, verse 28. And when he does he will come out with some half-baked crap to justify rejecting it as a condemnation of his prurient bigotry - which, as time goes on, becomes more and more evident as an expression of his loathing of his own repressed and blatant latent homosexuality.
      Dr S 'O Domy, Robert Willoughby Fellow in Applied Buggery, the University of Gomorrah.

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  4. Gene, when the going gets tough Detterling gets going.This has been the pattern over the last eighteen years. Remember back in 2005 when he threw in the towel in a discussion with JJBloggs claiming he was too dizzy to carry on?

    He is a bottlejob and a pseud to boot.

    Tony of the Big Saloon

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    1. Tony, the way you parrot Gene's clapped out cliches gives one the eerie feeling that he is working you with his foot. Not least, because you, like him, use the phrase "when the going gets tough, Detterling gets going" to suggest cowardice, when in fact it means the opposite.

      "When the going gets tough, the tough get going" is an idiom said to emphasize that when conditions become difficult, strong people take action. No doubt Gene will now claim that he knows better than the Cambridge Advanced Learner's Dictionary & Thesaurus © Cambridge University Press): it's the sort of demented crap he comes out with, just as he forges posts from real people like Hank Marvin in order to disguise the fact that no-one reads this pile of shite masqeruading as a blog.
      Revd Dr Richard Dawkins SJ.

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  5. "Detterling you post rubbish such as the above...", says Gene with an air of being above the kind of multiple sock-puppetry to which he resorts as being the only way to look as if anyone actually reads this blog - the literary equivalent of homeopathy. Whoever is writing these posts, they are only following Gene's example - Mary Winterbourne, Tony of the Big Saloon, Ducky Duckworth, Myrtle Thornberry, Annie Baker, Mr and Mrs Anonymous of Torquay, even Sir Henry at Rawlinson End - these are all Gene - multiple, sweatily stinking socks from Gene's grimy and cheesy feet.

    And how do we know this? Because when Gene "went missing" and "returned" he was greeted with a chorus of tidily crafted and pungent abuse signed by Mary Winterbourne, Tony of the Big Saloon, Ducky Duckworth, Mr and Mrs Anonymous of Torquay, Myrtle Thornberry, Annie Baker and Sir Henry at Rawlinson End. These were immediately condemned by Gene as being forgeries - and the only reason he could have for saying this is that usually he forges posts under those names. How else could he know?

    Once more, Gene Vincent, like Tony Hancock, a "cunning, high-powered mug" adds a couple of lines to his autobiography, provisionally entitled "How to Cheat and Go On Losing".

    I wonder what plgiarised, cheap and nasty gobshitery Gene will come out with next? Perhaps he could justify Vincent Nichols's moral bankruptcy and hypocrisy in failing to root out priests in his diocese whose idea of fun was having sex with children, as witness the IICSA report of November 2020. I bet he was glad when the pandemic drove his grotesque moral turpitude from the headlines, as witness this independent report:

    "In November 2020 the Independent Inquiry into Child Sexual Abuse heavily criticised Nichols as the leader of the Catholic church in England and Wales for lack of personal responsibility, of compassion towards victims, of the leadership expected, and for the reputation of the church above the suffering of victims."

    There is something that stinks to high heaven about a priest who fails in his duty of care to his flock so appallingly. No wonder Gene thinks that the sun shines out of his arse

    Monsignor F O' Reskin, Congregation of the Faith.

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    1. Detterling, attacking the Catholic Church does not excuse the moral bankruptcy and hypocrisy of the Church of England.

      Tony of the Big Saloon

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  6. Detterling never said that it did, you stupid pillock. But if you really cared two straws about moral bankruptcy and hypocrisy in church hierarchies, Gene, you would start in your own midden by denouncing Vincent Nichols for covering up sexual assaults on small children by his priests. Oops! Sorry - I forgot. It’s all right when Catholic priests do it, isn’t it Gene?
    Fr K Y Jelly, Church of St Perineum the Lesser, 5, Back Passage, Hillingdon.

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  7. "Gene, you would start in your own midden by denouncing Vincent Nichols for covering up sexual assaults on small children by his priests."

    I don't believe that Cardinal Nichols did any such thing.

    GENE

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  8. "I DON’T normally do the church press in this column, but The Tablet’s treatment of the Roman Catholic Church’s child-abuse scandals, and the part played by Cardinal Vincent Nichols in playing them down, has been remarkable, given the long history of sympathy between the two parties.

    In June, the paper carried an editorial on the Independent Inquiry into Child Sexual Abuse (IICSA) report on the Roman Catholic Church (News, 28 June), which queried the fitness for office of both the Cardinal and his successor as Archbishop of Birmingham, the Most Revd Bernard Longley, and suggested that the Pope demand an account from them of the failures in the archdiocese.

    Earlier this month, there was a news story by Liz Dodd about a 2003 BBC programme that had exposed some of the wickedness that had been policy under Archbishop Couve de Murville in the 1990s: the usual business of moving an abusive priest from parish to parish until he had to be sent abroad entirely. The news was not that, but the lengths to which Couve de Murville’s successor as Archbishop of Birmingham, Vincent Nichols, went to discredit the BBC.

    The programme’s presenter was quoted: “In my entire career as an investigative journalist, I have never experienced an onslaught of that kind of intense lying and deceit and manipulation.”

    Cardinal Nichols went so far as to call a press conference to denounce the programme before it had even been broadcast, making a series of allegations that were later proved false.

    This was first-class, painful reporting, and it was backed by a fierce Tablet leader which said that the hierarchy of the Church had done very little to expose the scandals of child abuse. All the work that mattered was done by secular agencies: the media, the police, and the courts.

    “It would have been gracious of Archbishop Nichols — now Cardinal Nichols, Archbishop of Westminster — to accept the findings of the BBC inquiry into his complaints, and to apologise to the journalists who worked on the programme. It cannot be ignored that two successive heads of child-protection services in the Catholic Church in England and Wales, Eileen Shearer and Adrian Child, said to IICSA through their counsel: ‘In the Archdiocese of Birmingham, there were systemic and personal failures. There was a lack of leadership from the archbishop and failures by the Safeguarding Commission and the safeguarding coordinator to perform their duties. These failures were deliberate. They were persistent. They were prolonged. And they were serious.”

    Nothing of which the Cardinal has been accused stands comparison with the cover-up over John Smyth, but this is still a reminder of just how very angry the laity of the Roman Catholic Church have become over the behaviour of the hierarchy in this matter.

    Sources: "The Tablet" as reported in "Church Times, August 23rd 2019

    H'm: "how very angry the laity of the Roman Catholic Church have become over the behaviour of the hierarchy in this matter."

    The laity on this occasion seems not to include snivelling arse-lickers like Gene Vincent, who go weak at the knees at the sight of a handsome man wearing a biretta...

    Sister "wears the soap" Marianne of the Pubes.

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  9. Well I concede it looks bad. Especially when one considers how correct, nay, squeaky clean, the Church of England has been. An absolute model of propriety.

    "Nothing of which the Cardinal has been accused stands comparison with the cover-up over John Smyth,"

    Who is John Smyth?

    GENE

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  10. No-one has claimed the C of E to be squeaky clean, you nasty little creep. The fact remains that Detterling will take no lectures about moral bankruptcy in the C of E from a Catholic, especially from a snivelling creeping-Jesus like you.
    Father O’ Nanist, St Gene the Masturbator, Little Bellend, Middlesex.

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  11. "He is a bottlejob and a pseud to boot."

    Yes indeed. And how I would like to come up to Tyneside and repeatedly boot Detterling's backside all the way out to Wallsend.

    Duckie Duckworth

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  12. Enter another from the dreary parade of Gene Vincent's sock puppets - he is not only morally bankrupt, but intellectually bankrupt as well - the same hackneyed, feeble invective, with all the punch and impact of a strand of over-ccoked spaghetti. Not only that but lazy and inaccurate - Wallsend is IN Tyneside, you boneheaded berk.

    Cllr Flatcap McPitprop [Lib Dem Cabinet Member for Self-Abuse, North Tyneside Council].

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  13. But never mind all that: let us saviour the moment when Gene admitted in full to what a loathsome specimen he is.

    On January 31st 2023, Detterling posted as follows:

    The fact is that you have abused your freedom of speech for sixteen years to tell lies, invent filthy stories about my wife and family, and level scurrilous and wholly untrue allegations that I have caused people to kill themselves. And you have done all of it while hiding behind an alias, like the snivelling coward that you are. That is NOT exercising your “freedom of speech” - it is nasty, remorseless, spineless bullying carried out relentlessly against victims you think cannot hit back.

    To which post Gene replied five hours later as follows, beginning by quoting from the first sentence of Detterling’s post:

    "The fact is that you have abused your freedom of speech for sixteen years"

    To which Gene [terminally thick as well as irredeemably nasty] replied

    “It's eighteen actually.”

    thus once again walking into the simplest of traps and admitting to what a disgusting human being he is. He admits to

    telling lies,
    inventing filthy stories about Detterling’s wife and family,
    levelling scurrilous and wholly untrue allegations that Detterling has caused people to kill themselves.
    And he admits having done all of this while hiding behind an alias, like the snivelling coward that he is.

    Moreover, he admits too that this behaviour is NOT exercising his “freedom of speech”.

    He admits rather that it is nasty, remorseless, spineless bullying carried out relentlessly against victims that Gene thinks cannot hit back.

    You can have no idea how handy this admission is about to become, Gene. Make the most of this blog while it lasts.

    Rosemary McTaggart

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  14. "Not only that but lazy and inaccurate - Wallsend is IN Tyneside, you boneheaded berk."


    Did I say that it wasn't?

    Duckie Duckworth

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