Saturday, 16 March 2024

 

Vatican rebuts allegations of stalling on California sex abuse case

VATICAN CITY – Vatican officials have rebutted allegations that the future Pope Benedict XVI stalled on a priestly sex abuse case in 1985, and said critics have misunderstood the fundamental church procedures in use at the time.

The Associated Press reported that then-Cardinal Joseph Ratzinger resisted pleas to defrock Father Stephen Kiesle, a California priest with a record of sexually molesting children. It cited a letter from Cardinal Ratzinger, who was head of the Vatican’s doctrinal congregation, advising further study of the case for “the good of the universal church.”

Vatican officials pointed out that Cardinal Ratzinger was responding to the priest’s own request for dispensation from the vow of celibacy, and at the time had no authority to impose dismissal from the priesthood as a penalty for sex abuse.

Jeffrey Lena, a California lawyer for the Vatican, said the AP article reflected a “rush to judgment” and presumed – incorrectly – that Cardinal Ratzinger’s office had control over clerical sex abuse cases.

“During the entire course of the proceeding the priest remained under the control, authority and care of the local bishop who was responsible to make sure he did no harm, as the canon law provides,” Lena said. “The abuse case wasn’t transferred to the Vatican at all.”

Other Vatican experts in church law, who asked not to be identified because they were not authorized to speak on the record, made several other points about the Kiesle case:

– Cardinal Ratzinger’s 1985 letter came in response to a request for dispensation from priestly obligations, not a request for sanctions against an abuser. The distinction is important, they said. At the time, Pope John Paul II had introduced a policy of greatly reducing the number of such dispensations, out of concern that the commitment to the priesthood was no longer seen as permanent.

– Cardinal Ratzinger’s letter acknowledged the “grave” reasons involved in this particular case, urged the local bishop to follow the priest closely and advised further careful consideration of the situation. Kiesle was in fact laicized two years later, on the eve of his 40th birthday; there was a policy at the time of not granting dispensations to priests under the age of 40.

– Cardinal Ratzinger’s letter had no bearing on protecting children from Kiesle, or protecting the church’s reputation. At that time removal from ministry was the responsibility of local church officials, not the Vatican. After he was arrested in 1978 on misdemeanor charges of lewd conduct and received three years’ probation in a plea bargain, Kiesle was removed from ministry by the Diocese of Oakland. However, he apparently continued to do parish volunteer work with youths until it was brought to the bishop’s attention.

– Authority over allegations of sexual abuse of minors by priests was transferred to the doctrinal congregation only in 2001. In 2003, special faculties were granted to the congregation to make it easier to dismiss offenders from the priesthood. Cardinal Ratzinger is said by many to have pushed for these changes in order to confront what was recognized as a major problem in the church.

Vatican sources said the Kiesle case illustrates how the Vatican has changed its approach over the years, particularly regarding the penalty of dismissal from the priesthood. Laicization is now seen as a proportionate punishment for “all the egregious cases” of sex abuse of minors, one official said.

“We have acquired a keen sense of the nature of the crime of sexual abuse of minors and of the scandal that derives from it,” he said.

In the case of Kiesle, removal from the priesthood did not prevent him from committing sexual crimes. He was convicted in 2004 of a second sex offense, that of molesting a girl in 1995, and was sentenced to six years in prison. He lives today in a California community as a registered sex offender.

10 comments:


  1. "– Cardinal Ratzinger’s letter had no bearing on protecting children from Kiesle, or protecting the church’s reputation. At that time removal from ministry was the responsibility of local church officials, not the Vatican. After he was arrested in 1978 on misdemeanor charges of lewd conduct and received three years’ probation in a plea bargain, Kiesle was removed from ministry by the Diocese of Oakland. However, he apparently continued to do parish volunteer work with youths until it was brought to the bishop’s attention."

    GOT THAT DETTERS?

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  2. Nonsense.

    "Vatican officials have rebutted allegations" - ie they have denied them, not disproved them - for which process the word "refuted" would have been used.

    And the idea that Cardinal Ratzinger could not have acted to set in train the process of unfrocking Kiesle is beyond ridiculous - a phone call to the right person could have done that.

    He should also have ensured that Kiesle was, as he should have been, dealt with locally to ensure that he had no further access to children and was, additionally, placed on the California Sex Offenders Register.

    The above is specious bollocks, and you know it.

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  3. In the meantime, I continue to wait for your answer to this:

    "Detters can we leave A.N. WILSON and ARIANNA HUFFINGTON behind?"

    Not until you have dealt honestly with this example of your lying bastardy:

    'Gene writes beautifully - something not always the case with authors of trail-blazing literary works.' [A.N. WILSON]

    'I was enthralled. A new star has shot into the literary firmament. [ARIANNA HUFFINGTON]

    When you are going to admit that you have made these reviews and their authors up? Make no mistake: I am going to keep on asking until you tell the truth, or I lose patience, inform Mr Wilson and Ms Huffington and let nature take its course.

    FOR THE LAST TIME:

    Maybe you think you can get off this hook by deleting this post every time I put it up [as you have been doing for the past three days].

    If you persist in doing so I will revert to plan B - which is to send Ms Huffington and Mr Wilson each a copy of "Granny Barkes fell in Woolworths" along with screen shots of their alleged reviews of it and a dossier of all the personal details I have of you, and let nature take its course.

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  4. Your behaviour in defending this appalling Dawkins et al makes you as bad as they are.

    This article, plus the Phil Lawler, article blows you and Dawkins out of the water. You are stuffed and you know it.

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    1. Oh piss off you demented clown.

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  5. "You should think shame to yourself for defending such a lethally inept performance by Ratzinger."

    And you should think shame to yourself for condoning the criminal neglect of California not putting this evil man on the sex offenders register.

    Cardinal Ratzinger was first alerted to this in 1985 seven years after the crimes and when this man had for years been de fact removed from the priesthood.

    Blame the pinko liberal authorities in California not the Church.

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  6. "And you should think shame to yourself for condoning the criminal neglect of California not putting this evil man on the sex offenders register."

    Show me where I condoned the state of California's not putting Kiesle on the sex offenders' register. You can't because I haven't, you lying weaselly bastard.

    "Cardinal Ratzinger was first alerted to this in 1985 seven years after the crimes and when this man had for years been de fact removed from the priesthood."

    And when he was alerted to it. his first consideration was not unfrocking Kiesle and co-operating with the Californian legal authorities to ensure that Kiesle was placed on the sex offenders's register but

    "THE GOOD OF THE UNIVERSAL CHURCH" and "THE DETRIMENT THAT GRANTING THE DISPENSATION CAN PROVOKE" not to mention the tender age [38 years old' of Kiesle and the possible effect that unfrocking could have on him.

    "Your behaviour in defending this appalling Dawkins et al makes you as bad as they are."

    I am not defending him, I think he is an outstandingly unpleasant man but, unlike you, I recognise when he has made a good case for the fact that Ratzinger should have been referred to the civil law for excusing, concealing and in effect condoning the rape and buggery of small childen and vulnerable adults by Fr Kiesle.

    "This article, plus the Phil Lawler, article blows you and Dawkins out of the water. You are stuffed and you know it."

    Nonsense. Neither Phil Lawler, like you a bigoted Catholic apologist and arse-kissing Ratzinger groupie, provides half truths and at least plain lies. The Vatican officials do not REFUTE [ie disprove] the allegations but merely "REBUT" them, which is simply their gainsaying of the facts of the case. Sentences such as this

    "At that time removal from ministry was the responsibility of local church officials, not the Vatican" are simply criminal in their implication. Ratzinger knew that this man had been convicted of raping and buggering two young boys AND DID NOTHING TO ENSURE THAT HE WAS STOPPED BECAUSE IT WASN'T HIS JOB TO DO SO.

    SERIOUSLY? if I had incontrovertible evidence that you had raped a small boy, Gene, would I be justified in doing nothing because I am not a policeman? You are a fucking disgrace to defend Ratzinger for doing precisely that.

    Just fuck off and stop making me feel sick to my stomach, you disgusting little sod.

    In the meantime, I continue to wait for your answer to this:

    "Detters can we leave A.N. WILSON and ARIANNA HUFFINGTON behind?"

    Not until you have dealt honestly with this example of your lying bastardy:

    'Gene writes beautifully - something not always the case with authors of trail-blazing literary works.' [A.N. WILSON]

    'I was enthralled. A new star has shot into the literary firmament. [ARIANNA HUFFINGTON]

    When you are going to admit that you have made these reviews and their authors up? Make no mistake: I am going to keep on asking until you tell the truth, or I lose patience, inform Mr Wilson and Ms Huffington and let nature take its course.

    FOR THE LAST TIME:

    Maybe you think you can get off this hook by deleting this post every time I put it up [as you have been doing for the past three days].

    If you persist in doing so I will revert to plan B - which is to send Ms Huffington and Mr Wilson each a copy of "Granny Barkes fell in Woolworths" along with screen shots of their alleged reviews of it and a dossier of all the personal details I have of you, and let nature take its course.

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  7. Oh for God’s sake. Gene: if you don’t know by now that this painfully unfunny retort lets everyone know that you have lost the argument but lack the integrity to admit it, then you must be even more thick witted than I thought. Shallow, two-faced and brimful of bogus, self-serving attitudinising piety laced with malicious bigotry.

    What next? The desperate cry of self-reassurance “another victory for Gene” to face paint yet another humiliation? Piss off and write yet another terrible first chapter of yet another terrible abortive novel. How about “Portrait of the Artist as an Illiterate Weasel”?

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  8. "What next? The desperate cry of self-reassurance “another victory for Gene” "

    Yes, it certainly has ben another victory for Gene. Your and the absurd Dawkins' allegations were blown out of the water.

    GENE

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