OVERHEARD IN HARRIS & HOOLE...
(An occasional feature)
2nd October 2023
Myself and Mary Winterbourne and Tony of the Big Saloon got together this morning in Harris & Hoole:
MARY WINTERBOURNE: Gene I see that Detterling has been back in touch.
GENE: Yes Mary. Silly old prick says he's keeping my blog under surveillance. I take that with a pinch of salt. He's too old and befuddled to keep that up. Besides every time he turns up he will be reminded of the odium and public contempt that befell him when he made those false allegations against Father Calvin Robinson. Yes, we have in effect seen the last of Detterling.
What I think we should do today is recall all the laughs he gave us over the last eighteen years plus.
MARY WINTERBOURNE: I know that the biggest laugh I had was back when he had that legendary exchange with you Gene on the TES website. It went:
Detterling: I know you probably despise me Gene
Gene: Well if I ever gave it any thought I probably would.
GENE: HA! HA! HA! Yes, that was funny. My own particular favourite was when in the midst of some spat on the TES Opinion Forum he coqeuttishly suggested he might show his bare ass in Fenwick's Christmas window in Newcastle.
MARY WINTERBOURNE: Dear God! What a dreadful spectacle to contemplate!
TONY OF THE BIG SALOON: I loved that time he arranged to meet you Gene at the Bloomsbury Crest hotel up in London. He wrote that he would be wearing a blue denim jacket, lovat chinos and green woolen socks in open-toed sandals! How we laughed! Sir Henry had field day.
ALL: Well, let's raise our cappuccinos to Detters, Delia, Sebastian and Cuthbert. Cheers!
I told you that you would regret your recent abuse of my family and myself. You have seen fit to ignore this. So now let us see what Helen Cheung, Teresa Doyle, Judi George, Fiona McCloskey, Elizabeth Meade, Fr Tom Montgomery, Julide Senturk-Rutherford and Mrs Chioma Wamadi make of this blog.
ReplyDeleteWho cares what any of these people make of my blog? I have no connection with any of them - or indeed I have never heard of any of them.
ReplyDeleteGENE
Brace yourself for a nasty surprise - I can assure that they will be very interested in you. Have a look at the Douay Martyrs website.
ReplyDeleteYOU SEEM TO FORGET THAT I LEFT TEACHING SOME SEVEN YEARS AGO!
ReplyDeleteGENE
You were warned that myself and my family are off limits. You have chosen to ignore that warning, despite being reminded twice. You have had your chance and blown it. And so you are going to be exposed in educational and Roman Catholic circles in West London. And before you start bleating about free speech, be assured that your freedom of speech is being neither curtailed nor qualified. You are, simply, going to be made to take responsibility for what you have said instead of cowering behind a pseudonym.
ReplyDelete"And so you are going to be exposed in educational and Roman Catholic circles in West London."
ReplyDeleteDespicable!!! Have you no shame? You are back to your evil ways of threatening to expose my anonymity. This is how you behaved on the TES - the only poster on the TES who ever threatened such evil.
You lily-livered so-and-so, why can't you fight your own battles?
GENE
"You lily-livered so-and-so, why can't you fight your own battles?"
ReplyDeleteI am fighting my own battle and in doing so taken a conscious decision to behave towards you as you have behaved towards me for years - without principle, without regard to common decency and with complete disregard for any pain which may be inflicted in the process.
You are being paid out in your own counterfeit and dishonoured coinage, and that is what infuriates you so. Sauce for the goose is sauce for the gander.
If you do not wish to be disgraced in the circles where you imagine your reputation still has some sort of currency - to say nothing of your long-suffering family - then there is only one way to prevent this, and you know perfectly well what that is. Other than that I am afraid that I am unable to help you further, and so I will bid you good afternoon and good riddance.
You lily-livered, yellow-bellied bottlejob you are NOT fighting your own battles. You are engaging others to fight for you.
ReplyDeleteReflect on this: have I ever over the years threatened to expose your identity? Of course not. Only a snake-in-the-grass would contemplate such malice.
GENE
Oh, stop whining, you pathetic little sod. I take no lectures from a nasty creature like you. Gene Vincent, the Grand Master of "I can dish it out, but I can't take it". I wouldn't piss on you if you were on fire.
DeleteStarting tomorrow, I will publish, in instalments, the letter I have compiled over the last several years on a new blog I have started - "Gene Vincent - a voice in the wilderness: IT'S PAYBACK TIME!!"
Whoopee!
"Gene Vincent - a voice in the wilderness: IT'S PAYBACK TIME!!"
DeleteNo such blog exists.
GENE
Quite right - it is now entitled “Gene Vincent - the Bastards’ Bastard” and is ready to go on line at the next mention of any member of my family or myself on this blog.
Delete
ReplyDeleteI am fighting my own battle and in doing so taken a conscious decision to behave towards you as you have behaved towards me for years - without principle, without regard to common decency and with complete disregard for any pain which may be inflicted in the process.
You are being paid out in your own counterfeit and dishonoured coinage, and that is what infuriates you so. Sauce for the goose is sauce for the gander.
If you do not wish to be disgraced in the circles where you imagine your reputation still has some sort of currency - to say nothing of your long-suffering family - then there is only one way to prevent this, and you know perfectly well what that is. Other than that I am afraid that I am unable to help you further, and so I will bid you good afternoon and good riddance.
A FINAL COMMUNICATION AND WARNING:
ReplyDelete[1] i will not - on this occasion at least - carry out my threat to expose you to the educational and Catholic communities of West London, but
[2] if a single further reference OF ANY KIND is made to ANY member of my family then I will publish, in weekly instalments, a letter I have compiled over the last several years on a new blog I will start - "Gene Vincent - the Bastard's Bastard".
This letter is nearly three thousand words long, and denounces you, your lies, hypocrisy, plagiarism, spite, nastiness and bogus Christianity in considerable and well exampled detail. A sample paragraph:
"Among other malicious allegations, “Gene Vincent” has attacked me by claiming that he had had an adulterous affair with my wife which resulted in his fathering my son – at the time of the allegation aged five years, now aged twelve; by alleging that my nephew – sexuality had been an issue during TES Opinion disagreements – is a promiscuous and predatory homosexual destined to die of AIDS; by accusing me of feigning mental illness in order to claim sickness benefit fraudulently.
More than that, “Gene Vincent” has conducted bitter, nasty and bogus campaigns of sneering at the homosexual community, calling them shirt-lifters, poofs, gingers, queers, and limp-wristed nancy-boys; alleged that homosexual men who adopt male children do so in order to have available children to abuse sexually – “Gene Vincent” seems to be of the opinion that all male homosexuals are paedophiles; has a juvenile and dirty mind, as proved by his boast that his penis is 8.5 inches long, which is why he calls it Fellini after film 8½ [see sample 2 from his blog below]"
[Continued]
A FINAL COMMUNICATION AND WARNING [II]
ReplyDeleteThere is a great deal more, all of it copiously illustrated with screenshots collected over many years. In particular, this choice example of your foul imagination when you boasted of having had anal intercourse with my wife has pride - or should that be shame? of place.
Your wishful thinking - "Yes Mary. Silly old prick says he's keeping my blog under surveillance. I take that with a pinch of salt. He's too old and befuddled to keep that up. Besides every time he turns up he will be reminded of the odium and public contempt that befell him when he made those false allegations against Father Calvin Robinson. Yes, we have in effect seen the last of Detterling." could not be further wrong.
I am [and will, for so long as I am spared[ superintend this blog for any infraction of the conditions at [1] and [2] above in part I of this post.
And should such an infraction occur, then the blog "Gene Vincent - the Bastard's Bastard" will be activated with no further warning. A full copy of the letter referenced above will also be sent to prominent members of the educational and Catholic hierarchies in West London by mail, so that there will be no chance of its origin being traced.
And that is all I have to say. The choice is yours to make, and should you choose to continue your vile campaign of denigration and abuse towards then shortly after that you will wish that you had never been born. As you have nastily and insultingly highlighted, I am now an old man with, quite probably, not a great deal longer to live. But I will die the more content for knowing that before I went, I pinned you, along with your richly varied nastiness and total unforgivable bastardy, to the wall first.
I don't believe in hell, but the only vestige of a reason to do so would be the hope that, in due course, you would fry in it, balls and all, Gene.
Goodbye.
Philip Stanford [aka Detterling].
"Philip Stanford [aka Detterling]"
ReplyDeleteWho in God's name is Philip Stanford?
Detterling I have been thinking this over and I am prepared to accept your terms on the following conditions:
ReplyDelete1 You state that you clearly and unequivocally accept the teaching of the Anglican Communion that homosexual acts are incompatible with the Scriptures.
2 You state that you clearly and unequivocally accept the teaching of the Anglican Communion on Original Sin.
3 You state that you clearly and unequivocally accept the teaching of Saint Paul that 'no sodomites shall ever enter the Kingdom of God'.
The ball is in your court Detterling.
GENE
[1] Do you SERIOUSLY imagine that you can coerce me into agreeing with your vicious and ignorant bigotry?
Delete[2] You are in no position to negotiate; there is nothing to negotiate, so stop pretending that there is.
Things are very simple:
[1] i will not - on this occasion at least - carry out my threat to expose you to the educational and Catholic communities of West London, but
[2] if a single further reference OF ANY KIND is made to ANY member of my family then I will publish, in weekly instalments, a letter I have compiled over the last several years on a new blog I will start - "Gene Vincent - the Bastard's Bastard".
Can you afford to have the information below [for example] published on the internet and sent to the educational and Catholic establishments to West London? And there is far worse than this to come...
......"By now you must be wondering what on earth all of this has to do with you, the answer to which is simple. “Gene Vincent” was, until December 2016, a senior teacher – according to him Head [or Acting Head] of Sixth Form in a Catholic High School in West London – Uxbridge, Hillingdon or Ickenham. From posts made in his blog I have become more or less certain that this school was REDACTED. I do know “Gene Vincent’s” real name, but for the purposes of this letter, and in the interests of my personal safety I will say only that his forenames are “REDACTED". According to descriptions of himself volunteered on his blog over the years, Gene Vincent
was born in 1957, went to the Cardinal Vaughan School in Holland Park, studied PPE at St John’s College, Oxford from 1975 – 1978, did a PGCE at St Mary’s College, Strawberry Hill, Twickenham.
He has been married twice, the first marriage having been annulled. He has been married to “Marianne” for over thirty years and has three adult children, two daughters and a son, as well as a grandson. He lives in Uxbridge and frequented a Wetherspoons public house called REDACTED in Uxbridge with a group of his friends each Friday night until he was banned for life following an unprovoked assault on another customer. His retirement party was held in this public house in December 2016. He was, during his time in post at REDACTED bald, bespectacled and wore a goatee beard. He retired in December 2016 from a post as teacher of Law and Acting [or substantive] Head of Sixth Form at REDACTED. During his time at REDACTED he was twice the subject of professional sanctions at his school, the first being for abuse of the school’s IT facilities, using them to write his blog during directed time. The second arose from a complaint made by a female colleague following “Gene Vincent’s” face to face scoffing and sneering at her in the school staffroom when the motion to create women bishops in the Church of England was defeated in the General Synod – the target of this unpleasant attack being nicknamed “The Church of England Busybody".
It appears in that last connection that Gene was so disliked and despised in the staffroom that the two teacher governors refused to support him in this case, and further that he escaped professional sanctions only by denying that he was Gene Vincent. That he published these unpleasant sneers on his blog under the name of Gene Vincent, and boasted of the way in which he had abused his colleague is a matter of record. His denial of this at the Governors’ hearing would appear to make him a liar as well as a coward."
NB that when this material is re-published - should your intransigence or future misbehaviour make it necessary, then - that which has been redacted in the above extract will be restored. The letter also makes clear that all of the information in it derives from material you have yourself disclosed on your blog. such that your whining and bleating about "betrayal" is meaningless.
"[1] Do you SERIOUSLY imagine that you can coerce me into agreeing with your vicious and ignorant bigotry..."
ReplyDeleteVicious and ignorant bigotry??? The teaching of the Anglican Communion and the teaching of St Paul???
"[2] You are in no position to negotiate; there is nothing to negotiate, so stop pretending that there is."
Oh yes I am in the strongest position to negotiate. It is my blog.
GENE
And you are the one who is going to be dropped in the shit if you don’t do as you are told. If that is being in a strong position then you could have fooled me.
ReplyDeleteAnd your vicious bigotry consists in your trying to make me abandon my beliefs (to which I am perfectly entitled) by coercion.
And don’t think I don’t know why - so you could then claim another of your bogus “victories”. It’s the same tactic as you used when you forged and posted the bogus retractions of my views of “Father Calvin Robinson”. The story of Gene’s life - how to cheat and still lose”.
"And your vicious bigotry consists in your trying to make me abandon my beliefs (to which I am perfectly entitled) by coercion."
ReplyDeleteYou by your own admission are a practising member of the Church of England. Why don't you abide by its teaching? Why don't you abide by Scripture. You can have your obnoxious beliefs but if you do and call yourself a member of the Church of England it is breathtaking hypocrisy.
You'll be hearing from me Detterling.
GENE
As usual, waffle, piffle, bluster and elision.
ReplyDeleteDo as you are bid - no further references to any member of my family or myself on this blog and you are safe from exposure.
If not, then not - simple as that. And stop trying to engage me in discussion. There is nothing to discuss.
I have nailed you and you have no choice in the matter: do as you are told or else.
End of.
"And stop trying to engage me in discussion."
ReplyDeleteI am not trying to engage you in discussion. I am showing you and everyone else what a total hypocrite you are.
GENE
Who's "everyone else"? then? Tony of the Big Saloon, Ducky Duckworth, Mary Winterbourne, Mr and Mrs Anonymous of Torquay and the latest addition to your troupe of imaginary friends, Gary Bendall?
ReplyDeleteGene: NOBODY takes this pile of shite seriously except you, and NOBODY gives a rat's for your pissy little opinions.
And I see that Jorge Mario Bergoglio has finally seen sense about a female priesthood in the Catholic church, married priests and the acceptance of homosexual marriages as well.
Yet another miserable FAIL for the Bastards' Bastard, Gene Vincent.
Not to mention the wonder that is "Father" Calvin Robinson getting the sack from GB News. It comes to something when someone is too bigoted for that shower of right wing shit.
Oh, and while I think of it:
A FINAL COMMUNICATION AND WARNING:
[1] I will not - on this occasion at least - carry out my threat to expose you to the educational and Catholic communities of West London, but
[2] if a single further reference OF ANY KIND is made to ANY member of my family then I will publish, in weekly instalments, a letter I have compiled over the last several years on a new blog I will start - "Gene Vincent - the Bastard's Bastard". This letter is nearly three thousand words long, and denounces you, your lies, hypocrisy, plagiarism, spite, nastiness and bogus Christianity in considerable and well exampled detail.
What happens next is up to you.
Goodbye, Gene, and try not to take this humiliation to heart. After all, you should be getting used to it by now.
"And I see that Jorge Mario Bergoglio has finally seen sense about a female priesthood in the Catholic church, married priests and the acceptance of homosexual marriages as well."
ReplyDeleteWhat world do you live in? There will never be female priest in the Catholic Church. Pope Francis has been adamant about that. Married priest in the Catholic Church is perfectly acceptable - there are many married Catholic priests here in London.
There will never be acceptance of homosexual marriage (sic). Pope Francis has explicitly said so. Anything you read different to this is just wishful thinking by pinko liberal gay lobbyists
GENE
BALLS.
ReplyDeleteSOURCE CBS NEWS, OCTOBER 4, 2023
"Rome — Pope Francis opened a big meeting Wednesday on the future of the Catholic Church, where contentious topics will be discussed. The three-week General Assembly of the Synod of Bishops at the Vatican, sometimes called the Super Bowl of the Catholic Church, has drawn bishops from around the world to discuss hot button issues including whether priests should be allowed to get married, if divorced and remarried Catholics should receive communion, whether women should be allowed to become deacons and how the church will handle matters around the LGBTQ community.
Even before it kicked off this year's synod was already historic: It's the first time that women and laypeople are being allowed to vote — though 80% of participants are still bishops, and thus men. But the biggest bombshell dropped earlier this week, when Francis opened the door for the possibility of Catholic priests blessing same-sex unions.
His remarks, published Monday, came with caveats: Francis stressed that blessings shouldn't be seen as elevating same-sex unions to the sacred place of heterosexual marriage, but until now, the church's position had been that same-sex unions could not be blessed, because "God cannot bless sin."
In his statements — issued in reply to cardinals who had requested clarity on the church's position on the matter — Francis said, "we cannot be judges who only deny, reject, and exclude."
In his opening homily Wednesday for the synod, the pope said that "everyone, everyone, everyone," must be allowed in.
LGBTQ organizations welcomed the change in tone, while church conservatives blasted Francis for appearing to dilute Catholic doctrine and sow confusion.
Jaime Manson, a women's rights activist and devout Catholic, said the change opens the church tent for LGBTQ couples like her and her partner of four years.
"Affirming and embracing everyone only makes the church stronger," Manson told CBS News. "It is a very slim minority of Catholics who are opposed to same-sex unions."
Father Gerald Murray, a conservative priest from Manhattan, disagreed.
"For the pope to say that priests and bishops can find a way to do this, it's wrong," Murray said. "He shouldn't do it."
"The harm is that it contradicts Catholic teaching," Murray said when asked about the harm in making the tent "bigger for more people."
All this, and the synod has only just begun."
So no women priests and no blessing for same sex marriage (sic).
ReplyDeleteAnd furthermore Detterling I would be grateful if you would cease the tedious repetition of the false allegation that I boasted about sodomising Delia. That never happened.
ReplyDeleteGENE
No-one ever thought that it had happened - as “Father” Calvin Robinson’s hero Laurence Fox nearly said “who’d want to shag a man like that?”
DeleteAnd it takes a very special kind of moral moron to imagine that boasting about buggering another man’s is somehow worse than boasting about fucking her. Jesus Christ, man LISTEN TO YOURSELF.
You are morally and ethically bankrupt., Gene.
Boring.
ReplyDeleteMy God! I do feel so sorry for Delia married to a man like that. My prediction is that one day she will say she is going out for a packet of cigarettes and never return.
ReplyDeleteSome months later she will be spotted in Uxbridge.
Gary Bandall
The prohibition of references on this blog to my family or myself includes references made by any or all of your troupe of imaginary friends and bogus correspondents.
ReplyDeleteThis includes Gary Bandall, Mary WInterbourne, Tony of the Big Saloon, Ducky Duckworth, Sir Henry at Rawlinson End and Mr and Mrs Anonymous of Torquay and any further aliases you adopt in the future.
See to it.