Friday, 6 December 2024

 

Welby sorry for hurting abuse survivors with speech

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The Archbishop of Canterbury has apologised for causing "further distress" after Church of England abuse survivors criticised his Lords farewell speech for making light of serious safeguarding failures.

Justin Welby said his words, delivered to the House of Lords on Thursday, had caused further hurt to those harmed by the "heinous abuse" perpetrated by prolific child abuser John Smyth.

It comes as three lead bishops for safeguarding in the Church of England described the speech as "utterly insensitive" in a letter to some abuse survivors.

Mr Welby resigned in November after the damning Makin report into the abuse found he "could and should" have reported Smyth to police in 2013.

In his speech, Mr Welby told the House of Lords a head had to roll after the publication of the review into the handling of the scandal.

The speech prompted a furious backlash from abuse victims who said it displayed no remorse for the suffering of survivors and said Welby's delivery of jokes had struck a "frivolous" tone.

"The reality is that there comes a time if you are technically leading a particular institution or area of responsibility where the shame of what has gone wrong – whether one is personally responsible or not – must require a head to roll," the archbishop said in the Lords on Thursday.

"And there is only, in this case, one head that rolls well enough."

He also referred to a 14th century predecessor who had been beheaded, adding: "I hope not literally."

In a statement on Friday, the archbishop said he wanted to "apologise wholeheartedly" for the hurt he had caused.

"I understand that my words – the things that I said, and those I omitted to say – have caused further distress for those who were traumatised, and continue to be harmed, by John Smyth's heinous abuse, and by the far reaching effects of other perpetrators of abuse," the statement said.

"It did not intend to overlook the experience of survivors, or to make light of the situation – and I am very sorry for having done so.

"It remains the case that I take both personal and institutional responsibility for the long and retraumatising period after 2013, and the harm that this has caused survivors.

He concluded: "I continue to feel a profound sense of shame at the Church of England's historic safeguarding failures."

Joanne Grenfell, Julie Conalty and Robert Springett, Church of England lead bishops for safeguarding, wrote to some abuse survivors after Mr Welby's speech, calling it "mistaken and wrong".

"Both in content and delivery, the speech was utterly insensitive, lacked any focus on victims and survivors of abuse, especially those affected by John Smyth, and made light of the events surrounding the Archbishop's resignation," the letter said.

"It was mistaken and wrong. We acknowledge and deeply regret that this has caused further harm to you in an already distressing situation."

The letter said the church had "seriously failed" to meet its safeguarding obligations "over many years" and described Mr Welby's speech as "the antithesis of all that we are now trying to work towards in terms of culture change and redress with all of you".

 YES DETTERLING I ACCEPT YOUR DEMANDS  -  WITH ONE EXCEPTION ...

The ball is in your court Detterling.



[ONE] remove these posts from this thread above:

Anonymous4 December 2024 at 08:22: Detterling I would like to take you up on the suggestion that I meet your grand daughters. I am sure they are delightful.
I would like to give them the low down on the man their grandad really is. GENE

Anonymous4 December 2024 at 10:34: You sick, grubby, leering bastard. The Gregg Wallace of failed authors.

Anonymous4 December 2024 at 11:35: Hey! It was you who brought up the subject of my meeting with your grand daughters! GENE

Anonymous4 December 2024 at 14:40: You sick, grubby, leering bastard. The Gregg Wallace of failed authors.

[TWO]: Also remove these two posts from the "Britain is no longer a Christian Country thread now on the front page of this blog:

Anonymous4 December 2024 at 11:29: Read the above article Detterling. It so pertinent to the Godless pinko-liberals of your ilk. GENE

Anonymous4 December 2024 at 13:02: Detters I have decided to name your grand daughters: the older one Lucretia and the younger one Ffiona. GENE

[THREE]: No other posts on this thread must be removed.

[FOUR]: you undertake that henceforth you will make no reference of any kind on this blog to my wife, my daughters, son and grand-daughters. This includes desisting from posting the nauseating Christmas and Easter greetings to myself and my family. You can say what you like about me, but my family is now - and forever - off limits.


What you have listed as, ONE TWO AND THREE I accept. 

However, as to condition FOUR I must demur. I reserve the right to send you Christmas and Easter greetings and to use the names Detterling, Delia, Sebastian, Cuthbert, Lucretia and Ffiona. Seems very fair to me.

The ball is in your court Detters.


Best wishes 

Gene 

 JUST LOVE THIS DEPICTION OF CHRISTMAS ON TYNESIDE

I posted this on the TES website prior to Christmas 2020. It was met with derision from many TESSERS.  Nevertheless, I love this wholesome glimpse of Christmas at Chez Detters. 

I RATE IT UP THERE WITH DESCRIPTIONS OF CHRISTMAS BY DICKENS, LAURIE LEE et al.

(It was sent to me by Detterling  on Christmas Day 2018)

Chez Detters set up for Christmas

Detterling 25 December 2018 at 14:58


CHRISTMAS 2018 


Saturday, a warm and hilarious family gathering with mother-in-law, brother-in-law and partner.

.....Sunday, daughters, husbands and grand-daughters convene at our house for a loud and happy afternoon culminating in acapella carol- singing round the piano which brought the neighbours round with requests for Silent Night and The Angel Gabriel, then all the family to Nine Lessons and Carols at our local church, where my son read a lesson with aplomb, understanding and relish.

.....yesterday, final preparations for the festival and in the evening, playing the organ at a carol service for an old friend whom I have known since she was six weeks old and who is now a vicar in the next parish but two.

.....and today, an early start with our son opening his presents, an afternoon with in-laws and nieces, and tonight Christmas dinner with the family, cooked by me and enjoyed by everyone.


GENE

Tuesday, 3 December 2024

 

Britain no longer a Christian country, says Bishop Egan following vote to legalise assisted suicide

The Bishop of Portsmouth has said that “Britain is no longer a Christian country” following the vote by MPs to legalise assisted suicide.

In a pastoral letter to his diocese to mark the first Sunday of Advent, Bishop Philip Egan stressed that a line has been crossed in Britain from which there is no return.

The Terminally Ill (End of Life) Bill passed Second Reading by 330 votes to 275, a majority of 55, making extremely likely that assisting in suicides will be lawful for the first time in British history.

At present, assisted suicide is prohibited by up to 14 years in jail under the Suicide Act 1961, though prosecutions are rare.

The Bill will allow medical practitioners to assist in the suicides of terminally ill adults who are deemed to have just six months to live. Two doctors and a High Court judge must approve their deaths.

“Our world here in the UK has now changed, unfortunately not for the better,” the Bishop wrote.

“As people of reason and people of faith, we know this is a truly bad move. It will put pressure on the elderly and the dying, making them feel they are a burden”.

“Although not unexpected, this vote poses a grave danger. Britain is now crossing a line from which there will be no return.”

Bishop Egan stressed the need to continue the fight and to contact MPs – around 30 who voted for the Bill said they might change their minds at a later stage if they deem the safeguards insufficient – and encourage them to vote against the third reading of the Bill when it takes place.

“This legislation, however, makes one thing crystal clear. Britain is no longer a Christian country. To be a Christian in future will not be easy, if ever it was.”

“More and more, as in ages past, we will stand out from the crowd and from others in our society who see human life, its dignity and value, in a radically different way.”

“It is my hope that God will give us the grace to live our discipleship ever more authentically so that the true beauty of our Catholic faith might become even more evident.

“I pray that the splendor veritatis, the beauty of the Truth, the hope it gives, especially to the vulnerable, and the Gospel vision of the human person – fallen but redeemed, an incarnate spirit called to live a good life here on earth and one day to be with God for ever in Paradise – will shine out for all to see.”


Bishop Mark Davies of Shrewsbury has also spoken out, saying: “It is a dark day for our country when the Christian witness to genuine compassion and the value of human life is more needed than ever.”

Auxiliary Bishop John Sherrington of Westminster, Lead Bishop for Life Issues of the Bishops’ Conference of England and Wales, described the Bill as “flawed in principle”.

The bishops collectively, he said, were “disappointed” by the vote to allow the Bill to progress to its next stage.

Bishop Sherrington said: “We ask the Catholic community to pray that Members of Parliament will have the wisdom to reject this bill at a later stage in its progress.

“We are particularly concerned with clauses in the Bill that prevent doctors from properly exercising conscientious objection, provide inadequate protection to hospices and care homes that do not wish to participate in assisted suicide and allow doctors to initiate conversations about assisted suicide.

“We ask that these voices be heard in the next stages of the Bill to strengthen the deep concerns about this proposed legislation.

“We have expressed the view, during this debate, that genuine compassion involves walking with those who need care, especially during sickness, disability and old age.

“The vocation to care is at the heart of the lives of so many people who look after their loved ones and is the sign of a truly compassionate society.

“It is essential that we nurture and renew the innate call that many people have to compassionately care for others.

Bishop Sherrington added: “It remains the case that improving the quality and availability of palliative care offers the best pathway to reducing suffering at the end of life.

“We will continue to advocate for this and support those who work tirelessly to care for the dying in our hospices, hospitals and care homes.”

The Bill, introduced by Kim Leadbeater, the Labour MP for Spen Valley, will now proceed to Committee Stage where MPs can table amendments before it will be passed to the House of Lords.

Opening a five-hour debate, Ms Leadbeater said her Bill would bring “choice, autonomy and dignity” at the end of life.

She said: “It may not be that surprising that most people believe, as I do, that we should all have the right to make the choices and decisions we want about our own bodies.”

She added: “Let’s be clear, we are not talking about a choice between life or death, we are talking about giving dying people a choice of how to die.”

Conservative MP Danny Kruger warned MPs however that the Bill was dangerously flawed and urged them to vote against it.

He said: “All you need to do to qualify for an assisted death, the definition of terminal illness under this Bill, is to refuse treatment – like insulin if you’re diabetic.’

He continued: “In the case of eating disorders you just need to refuse food and the evidence is, in jurisdictions around the world and in our own jurisprudence, that would be enough to qualify you for an assisted death.”

Mr Kruger added: “My view is that if we get our broken palliative care system right and our wonderful hospices properly funded we can do so much more for all the people that we will hear about today, using modern pain relief and therapies to help everybody die with a minimum of suffering when the time comes.

“But we won’t be able to do that if we introduce this new option. Instead we will expose many more people to harm.”

Labour MP Diane Abbott, the Mother of the House, said the state should not be involved in taking lives.

“In 1969, Parliament voted to abolish the death penalty for murder,” she said. “Public opinion was actually against it, but MPs believed [as] a point of principle that the state should not be involved in taking a life.

“It was a good principle in 1969, and it remains a good principle today.”

In a powerful intervention, Conservative MP Robert Jenrick warned MPs that “activist judges in Strasbourg” could soon expand eligibility criteria for doctor-assisted death.

The shadow justice secretary said: “I worry, in fact I am as certain as night follows day, this law if passed will change. Not as a result of the individuals in this chamber or in the Lords, but as a result of judges in other places.

“We’ve seen that time and again. It may be on either side of the debate but it will happen,” he said. “Bad law on trivial things is bad enough … bad law on matters of life and death is unforgivable.”

Tim Farron, the former leader of the Liberal Democrats, said the assisted dying Bill would put Britain on a “dystopian” path.

He said: “Here we are on the precipice of agreeing to sanction and support the deaths of people in despair.

“A society has chosen a dystopian and contagious path if it chooses to facilitate the death of those who have a terminal illness rather than standing with them, weeping with them, valuing them and loving them against the desolation that any of us would feel if we were given a diagnosis of that sort.”

Monday, 2 December 2024

 

Jacob Rees-Mogg tells Nigel Farage that he believes Detterling's memoirs will be published posthumously...




 

The miracle of Medjugorje, the holy town that took on the Vatican

Forty years after six children claimed to have met the Virgin Mary, a town in Bosnia is now one of the holiest in Europe. Why did it take so long to get the Vatican’s blessing? Dominic Hauschild makes the pilgrimage

 



Dominic Hauschild

Thursday November 28 2024, 12.01am, The Sunday Times


In June 1981 a handsome but painfully shy teenager with shaggy black hair is walking with a friend through an apple orchard. The sun is low and crickets chirp loudly as a warm afternoon breeze ripples through the leaves. The boy’s name is Ivan Dragicevic. He is 16, an ethnic Croat and a Catholic, like most of his village — the remote Bosnian farming community of Medjugorje — but not particularly religious. There is little on his mind beyond football and girls. His feet kick up a fine red dust that stains the hems of his trousers. From the hills Ivan sees someone sprinting towards him. Her name is Vicka Ivankovic, and what she is about to tell him will change their lives — and those of millions of people around the world.

“Ivan, the Madonna,” says Vicka, 17, breathlessly. “They said that the Madonna has appeared up there. Let’s go, you and me.” Vicka leads Ivan up a hill called Podbrdo, south of the village. There, the pair see a white flash of light in the shape of an angelic figure. Vicka looks at Ivan, but he has already turned on his heel and fled.

“The first day she appeared we ran off,” says Ivan, now a pudgy 59-year-old, lounging on a cream leather sofa in his home in Medjugorje, about 90 miles southwest of the capital, Sarajevo. His black mop has long since receded and turned grey. He wears wire-framed spectacles and a tight white T-shirt emblazoned with the logo of the Boston Celtics basketball team.

“I arrived at home and thought, isn’t that impossible? Can it be that I can see such a thing? But on the second day, when we came back, I started to talk with the figure. We went back again and, being with her every day, I relaxed more and more,” he says.

Ivan Dragicevic and Marija Pavlovic-Lunetti in 1984, with the youngest ‘visionary’, Jakov Colo

Ivan Dragicevic and Marija Pavlovic-Lunetti in 1984, with the youngest ‘visionary’, Jakov Colo

UMBERTO PIZZI

Ivan Dragicevic today, aged 59


Ivan and Vicka are two of six people from Medjugorje, all now in their fifties, who claim that for the past four decades they have had frequent visions of — and conversations with — Mary, the mother of Jesus Christ. “Every meeting with Our Lady I listen,” Ivan says. “But I don’t just listen, I also talk to her every day.” Mary gives the visionaries, as they are known, messages to pass on to the world. Over the past four decades more than 40,000 such messages have been received, written down and relayed to millions of Catholics worldwide in books and via broadcasts on the internet.


“The most important thing is to pray,” reads one, given to Ivan in September 1981. Another: “Peace, peace, peace. Only peace.”

The other “visionaries” are Marija Pavlovic-Lunetti, 59, Mirjana Dragicevic-Soldo, 59, Ivanka Ivankovic-Elez, 58, and Jakov Colo, 53. They were aged between 10 and 17 when the visions began. They are not related and, though they were raised in the same village, most were little more than acquaintances at first. Most — Ivan included — say Mary comes to them at 6.40pm every evening. Jakov, the youngest, says he receives just one message a year: on Christmas Day. Last Christmas, he says, Mary came to him at 2.20pm cradling the baby Jesus and called on the world to “surrender your life and heart” to God.

Within days of those first visions thousands of pilgrims flocked to Medjugorje, increasing as its fame grew. By 2015 an estimated 30 million people had been to the village and annual visitor numbers had surpassed a million. Today Medjugorje (permanent population: 4,000) is on its way to rivalling the better-known Marian shrines of Lourdes in France and Fatima in Portugal. Recent estimates put its annual tourist numbers close to three million — still a little under half the numbers received by Lourdes and Fatima. This August alone, priests at Medjugorje handed out 325,000 communion wafers.

As I walk along the main drag of the village, people from all over the world are milling around St James’s, the lemon-coloured stucco parish church framed by twin bell towers. At Christmas a massive crib and manger scene is erected in its courtyard, which doubles as the stage for the yearly Christmas Eve nativity play — complete with live donkeys and cows.

Dozens of gift shops are crammed along the street in the centre of town and on the walk up to Podbrdo — now known as Apparition Hill. They hawk cheap plastic souvenirs, including statuettes of Mary, or €2 (£1.70) jars of dirt collected from the hillside. Racks of multicoloured and glow- in-the-dark prayer beads line the shelves.



A few miles southwest of town a floodlit cross in the hills gives off an unearthly golden glow at night. This is Krizevac — Cross Mountain — another magnet for pilgrims. At its peak is a towering white cross, within which is embedded a splinter of the True Cross — supposedly the actual wooden crucifix on which Jesus died, the majority of which resides in a basilica in Rome. The fragment was gifted to the parish in 1933 by Pope Pius XI as part of a plan to put crucifixes on hilltops and mountains worldwide to mark the 1,900th anniversary of Jesus’s death.

The tourist influx since the 1980s has brought an estimated £83 million to the village, although there is no formal data. The analysts Future Market Insights calculated that worldwide revenue from faith-based tourism reached about £12 billion last year and could hit £32 billion by 2033.

Medjugorje, however, is mired in controversy and scandal. Over the decades critics within and without the church have accused the six visionaries of lying, or of moral failings that are incompatible with receiving visions of the virgin mother. The year their visions began they were arrested and interrogated by the communist authorities in Bosnia and Herzegovina, then part of Yugoslavia, resulting in a temporary ban from appearing in public.


The Catholic Bishop of Mostar denied the authenticity of the visions, leading to a rift with the local Franciscan monks who provided the children with spiritual guidance in the 1980s. One local monk, Tomislav Vlasic, was defrocked in 2009 and excommunicated in 2020 after allegedly fathering a child with a nun. Another, Jozo Zovko, was suspended three times by Rome for disobedience to the church and was stripped of his priestly duties.

In 1985 Cardinal Joseph Ratzinger (later to become Pope Benedict XVI) banned official pilgrimages to Medjugorje, although individual Catholics were still free to visit. The Vatican has commissioned multiple investigations into the nature of the visions, including one in 2010 initiated by Pope Benedict and headed up by a former vicar general of Rome, Cardinal Camillo Ruini.

 

After four years the Ruini Commission signalled its approval that the first seven apparitions of Mary at Medjugorje could be considered as genuine “supernatural” events — but serious doubts lingered over the enduring visions. Benedict’s successor, Pope Francis, lifted the ban on official pilgrimages in 2017, saying it was undeniable that people were having meaningful religious experiences in Medjugorje. He remained “suspicious” of the apparitions, however. The Pope, who has never visited Medjugorje, once warned worshippers: “The Virgin Mary is not a postmistress who sends messages every day.” When I visited this summer the village and its faithful awaited a full, detailed Vatican report, which wasn’t to emerge until September, some months later.



The events of June 1981 were not in isolation. Two months later, on August 6, witnesses claimed they saw the word MIR — the Bosnian-Croat word for peace — written in the sky in burning letters.

At the same time the so-called Miracle of the Sun was observed — a spectacle first seen in Fatima in 1917, in which the sun appears to zigzag in the sky for minutes at a time. It was attested to by about 150 witnesses, though sceptics ascribe it to a mass hallucination or an optical illusion. It has allegedly been seen in Medjugorje many times since.

Numerous other miracles have been claimed in Medjugorje over the years. Since 2001 a bronze statue of the Risen Christ by Andrej Ajdic, a Slovenian sculptor, placed behind St James’s Church in 1998, has been “weeping” from its thigh. The liquid is wiped away by worshippers on scraps of cloth that are then treated like relics. And, as at Lourdes, where Mary appeared to Saint Bernadette in the mid-19th century, numerous healings have been reported in Medjugorje — something the Vatican has also been looking into.

David Parkes, 74, is a singer and former Irish professional footballer who captained both Shamrock Rovers and Waterford. At a modest hotel resort a short drive outside the main village of Medjugorje Parkes sips a sismis kola, a Bosnian concoction of Coca-Cola mixed with soda water, while he reminisces about playing against the legendary Brazilian forward Pelé, or with the British great Bobby Charlton.


Raised Catholic, he lost his faith in God after his son Kenneth was born severely ill with cystic fibrosis. Kenneth died last year. Parkes’s football career was cut short after he contracted Crohn’s disease in 1977.

“I lost half my body weight to sweating, diarrhoea and vomiting,” he says. “I had ten major surgeries. My last surgery was on January 7, 1989, and the doctors gave me just two weeks to live.”

Unable to play football, he turned to his other passion, singing. The year of his last surgery, his band held a benefit concert to help his wife, Anne, pay for his funeral costs. While there he was given two free tickets to Medjugorje. “I went kicking and screaming,” he says. “I thought they were all religious maniacs.”

In Medjugorje he was strong-armed by Anne to a service led by an American priest, Peter Mary Rookey, who was believed to possess the gift of healing through prayer. “When Father Rookey started to bless people, they were all falling to the ground. I thought it was mass hysteria — once one does it, they’re all going to do it,” Parkes recalls. Then Rookey handed Parkes a crucifix and began to pray over him.

“Next thing I remember I’m lying on my back on the ground. When I got up I had a heat that went from the top of my head to the tips of my toes. From that point onward,” Parkes snaps his fingers, “there was no vomiting, no aches, no pains. I spent a week in hospital for them to carry out the tests, and I was home for ten days when I got the phone call to say there was no sign of Crohn’s disease anywhere in my body.”

Parkes became a convert to the Medjugorje phenomenon. He now works as an organiser and entertainer for the religious tour group Marian Pilgrimages. What does he make of Pope Francis’s scepticism over the apparitions? “He’s not been here, as far as I’m concerned,” he says.

On the other side of the village is the Castle — a mock medieval fortress, built in the late 1990s by Patrick and Nancy Latta, originally from Canada. A successful car salesman in his home country, Patrick married Nancy, a Supreme Court lawyer, after his two previous marriages failed. Now 85, Patrick’s Damascene moment came when his new wife gave him a book of the messages of Mary to the Medjugorje seers. “I opened it to the shortest message. It said, ‘I call you to conversion for the last time.’ ”


Despite never having been to Bosnia, the couple moved to Medjugorje in 1993 — in the middle of the Bosnian war. “I said, ‘Nancy! The mother of God lives there. I’m going to be her neighbour,’ ” Patrick says, laughing. “We spent three years in a war zone transporting food. We slept on top of the truck and bombs flew over our heads while we prayed the rosary.”

If Medjugorje is a Disneyland for Catholics, as some say, Patrick and Nancy’s home is its fairytale castle. Using the money they made selling Patrick’s car dealerships, they built it complete with parapets, bridges and turrets and now invite pilgrims and priests to stay there. Around the back is a grotto and a lifesize nativity scene. In her low-ceilinged kitchen, Nancy, 65, is playing host to a group of seminarians from Argentina. She shrugs when I ask about the Pope’s reluctance to authenticate the visions.

“The church in her wisdom waits for the right time,” she says. “It is not the right time yet. But if tomorrow the church approved Medjugorje, what would change? Would we start to pray the rosary? Would we start to read the Bible? We already do those things, so what would change?”

This June marked the 43rd anniversary of the first apparitions. During nine days of prayer — called a novena — I and several thousand other people join Ivan and his fellow seer Marija in a clearing on Apparition Hill. They both look remarkably ordinary, dressed in T-shirts. Marija’s is powder blue, Ivan’s is black with white Adidas stripes on the sleeve.

On the final evening at 11.30pm, by candlelight, they drop to their knees — a sign that a vision is taking place. They clasp their hands in front of their chests and lift their gaze to the sky, while their lips move in conversation with an invisible interlocutor. Afterwards Marija grasps a microphone and relays the message. Mary “smiled and was joyful”, she says. “She thanked us for our prayers and sacrifices and told us to continue. She came dressed in a gold dress, standing on a cloud and wearing a crown of stars.” Mary then prayed over the crowd “in her mother language, Aramaic” before leaving for Heaven.

Denis Nolan, who runs the Medjugorje news website Mary TV, live streamed every night of the novena. He claims that on the final night about a million people tuned in online, with at least one person in every country of the world. “That is a low estimate too,” he says, “as I was informed that one device in Europe was airing our live stream to 28,000 people.”


Ivan has given interviews like this one only a handful of times and, although it is impossible to know the truth of his visions, I am taken by his earnest demeanour. That isn’t to say he hasn’t benefited considerably from the apparitions. In 1995 a Hollywood film was released about Medjugorje, starring the West Wing actor Martin Sheen as Jozo Zovko. The year before, Ivan married Laureen Murphy, a former winner of the Miss Massachusetts beauty pageant, with whom he has four children. The couple spend six months of every year in Boston, in a property reportedly worth $1 million, and reside the other six months in the Medjugorje home in which we now sit.

He and the other visionaries don’t have separate full-time jobs, so he rents out his house to pilgrims to make money. It is spacious, air conditioned and the tile floor is cool underfoot. Through the window is a large garden and a neatly paved pathway leading to Ivan’s private chapel, from which he broadcasts his evening visions to dozens of followers — a private prayer group held over Zoom.

Ivan tells me he has always struggled with the attention. “Those first days were difficult. We were just children and I was a very introverted child,” he says. Though not particularly religious before the events on the hillside, that year he entered a seminary in Dubrovnik and sought to become a priest. But his teachers and peers refused to believe in his visions.

“I suffered very much, truly, very much,” he says. “I often asked myself, ‘Why me? Will I ever be able to do what Our Lady wants me to do?’ I once asked Our Lady and she just smiled and said, ‘My dear child, I don’t always look for the best.’ I never asked that question again.”

After two years he left the seminary, deciding against priesthood. A rumour began that Mary gave him a vision of his own future. He supposedly said that she “revealed my future to me until my death”.

Today he downplays those claims. “Many books write this, but they never asked me what is the truth. Our Lady never showed me the future,” he says. “But she told me certain things. Indications and directions of how I should walk. What kind of a life would it be if you knew everything in advance? Awful. It wouldn’t be a life.”

In addition to her public messages, the visionaries say Mary has revealed to them a number of “secrets” concerning the future of the world. These are said to involve signs, warnings and “chastisements” and have been interpreted by some as heralding an apocalypse. One secret, the third, is said to involve a visible, indestructible, permanent sign that is “not of this world”, which will be left on Apparition Hill.

In previous interviews the visionaries have said there are ten secrets, and once they receive all of them the daily visions will cease and Mary will appear to them only once a year. Ivan, who says he has received nine secrets so far, corrects the record. “There are not ten secrets,” he tells me. “We all have ten. Some of them we share in common and others we don’t. There are not sixty secrets. That would be a lot, but there are more than ten.”


He declines to elaborate on the content of his secrets, but waxes lyrical about the loveliness of the messenger. “It is impossible to describe in words the very beauty of her,” Ivan says, sitting in his front room with a tray of stale croissants on a table. “She wears a grey dress, a white veil and has blue eyes. She has pink lips and pink cheeks, with black hair. She stands on a cloud and wears a crown of stars.”

Despite its reservations and equivocations, the Vatican finally decided to stamp a seal of approval — of sorts — on Ivan and the five other visionaries in September. At a press conference in Rome, the bald-headed Cardinal Víctor Manuel Fernandez declared that, after its thorough 15-year investigation, he was to deliver a verdict of nihil obstat onMedjugorje, a Latin phrase that means “nothing stands in the way”, currently the highest level of formal attainable approval.

Fernandez, originally from Argentina, is the head of the Congregation for the Dicastery of the Faith, the Vatican department in charge of religious discipline in the church. “While this does not imply a declaration of the supernatural character of the phenomenon in question,” he said, “and recalling that the faithful are not obliged to believe in it, the nihil obstat indicates that the faithful can receive a positive encouragement for their Christian life through this spiritual proposal and it authorises public acts of devotion.”

When the ruling was delivered, Ivan was in Austria. Seated in the foremost pew in St Stephen’s Cathedral in Vienna, he was participating in an annual prayer for peace, which lasted nearly six hours. At precisely 6.40pm, he said, Mary appeared to him among the congregation and spoke of her joy at the announcement. People close to him that day say he felt grateful that Mary’s messages could now be spread more widely.

When Ivan showed me out of his home this summer, he told me about heaven. Mary, he said, once gave him a vision of paradise. “Our Lady wanted to show me hell and purgatory but I was afraid. I wanted to see what was beautiful. The next day she came and took me by the hand and I looked at paradise from above. It is an endless space without limits where people walk, sing and pray. There’s no old and no young and it is full of angels and flowers and light.” He added with a laugh: “I recommend it a lot.”

Now that he has won the long-awaited endorsement from the Vatican, will Ivan invite Pope Francis to visit Medjugorje and see it with his own eyes?

“We are all pilgrims. Like every pilgrim who comes, if the Holy Father feels it in his heart and he is called, then he will come.”

 

Sunday, 1 December 2024

 

The Euthanasia bill in a nutshell...

“Disposable in the womb” is being followed by “disposable at the end of life” – when the elderly are no longer economically useful.